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lcfcDan
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Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-22, 08:03
Hello All!

Im Dan, i'm 23 from leicester. ive played poker online on and off for the last few years but its only in the past few weeks ive been taking it seriously. I really want to get into playing live poker but i dont know how to! im aware of most of the etiquette and ive played live blackjack at casino tables, but is there anywhere in the midlands that does 'poker for beginners' so to speak? it took me a long while to get the confidence to sit at a blackjack table after just playing roulette with friends but blackjack is much simpler! 

any advice is more than welcomed. thank you!

Dan
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-22, 08:55
Welcome !

Most games can be easily observed without any offence.
Let the card room manager or dealer know that you are just watching for a while
Don't ask questions or anything during the game at any point, just watch
Do not look obviously at a player's hole cards if you are behind him, however if he is not hiding them from you and he knows you are there then feel free to take in what his cards are. 
Cash tables are often easier to observe as there will probably be a more relaxed atmosphere with more experienced players and the action probably easier to follow with no antes, fixed blinds etc. however you may pick up some bad habits!

Watch and listen to the conversations. There will often be incidents which are interesting and the card room manager is called over for a ruling

Another good time is early evening say 6pm or 7pm when the cash table will not be running but there will be a dealer, or even a couple of players waiting for a game to start. At this stage often you can ask and will even play a few dummy hands to explain the basics and show betting action, chip handling. When the game starts, you can either stay and play or you can stand up and wait til you are more confident.

If you let a forum member know when you are thinking of going to a casino then I am sure one of us will volunteer to assist you ( i would !)

Simple tips:
1) probably easier and safer to announce your action to start. If you say I fold, I bet £10 etc. then whatever you do with your cards or chips will not negate your action. This also stops you worrying anything about how you put y Ur chips over the line or into the middle. If you announce £10 then you can put them in one at a time, put more in, let the dealer put them in for you etc. and it does not matter at all.
2) if you are unsure: is the action on me, what are my options, what is the bet / action before. Just ask the dealer. That is perfectly acceptable.
3) if you do want to put chips in without verbal announcement, just count them out behind your stack and the betting line and put them in the middle, away from any other chips in front of you in one smooth action.
4) keep your cards and chips visible, chips in a neat stack with the higher value chips at the front and visible to all. Put your hand or a token on top of your cards to protect them but do not hide them.
5) if you are folding then pass your cards to dealer and do not expose. If you think you are at showdown or your cards are live and not sure if they are good or not just turn them over and keep in front of you. If you are not sure if you are at that stage when showing is acceptable, then again just ask the dealer. " can I show them"
6) not always helpful as you cannot do this in the middle of a hand, but leaving the table in between hands and walking to card room manager you can ask him about rebuts or re entry or showdown procedure or something is puzzling. Just for etiquette do this when he is not busy

Hope this helps.

There also may be some training sessions,I will look for you!
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-22, 09:17
That's great, thank you Mike! ive read hundreds of things online for etiquette etc so having them back up is very re-assuring. i think it will be at Grosvenor in Leicester when i go. thats where i'd normally go. im planning to go in and ask them myself if they give any guidance or any low stakes games that i wont care too much about making the wrong decision and i can just get comfortable with having the physical chips and cards in front of me.
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-22, 14:23
Welcome to the forum Dan. I am sure Jules who I assumes still runs the cardroom at Leicester will take good care of you. Make yourself known to him or whoever is on duty well before he gets busy taking entries for the evening comp. If you look at the daily schedules you will be able to pick what night is the best starting point for you.

And well done Mike for a comprehensive response.

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Beginners poker

on 2016-06-22, 20:07
Hi,
Just a few other ideas to put into the mix for you.

1) Before venturing in to a casino you could try 'pub poker', Redtooth Poker have a good national coverage where you can participate in live small stakes (usually £5 or less) league games and where most places play to something approximating casino rules (some stricter than others). Most places are pretty welcoming ! You can look up your local venues by going to the Redtooth Poker website, link venue and input your postcode for a list of local places to play - click on the names and then you can see what night they play (usually between Mon - Thursday about 7.30 - 11pm but it varies).

2) DTD in Nottingham run an Academy (learners) tournament/league each night Sunday to Thursday night for a £10 +£5 entry (triple-chance chips 10k/10k/10k), so you can make mistakes and still play on ! There's normally only 20 - 30 players many in a similar position to you. Here you can get used to the etiquette and rules in a professional environment.  Be Aware - some tournaments do go onto 11.30 - 12.30 depending on numbers ! (n.b. The regular tournaments at most casinos often don't finish until 3 - 4am if you make the Final Table).

Good luck.
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-23, 08:17
yeah that is also a factor, i start work at 7:30am so i would rather play Friday night, Saturday night or sunday daytime, im going to keep an eye out on the schedule. the DTD academy sounds great, im going to look into that now. im more excited for it than nervous but im sure it won't be the the same on the day. when i sat down to play blackjack for the first time i was very shakey, i still came out positive though which was a big boost. although thats less likely in my first poker game i feel.
Can somebody help by explaining the 'levels' part of the tournament schedule? its not something ive seen before and google isn't giving me any results, im sure i'll have alot more questions too as i look into it more!

Thank you for your help so far guys Smile
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-23, 11:38
Also, anybody able to tell me the post count i need to send/reply to PM's?
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-23, 12:05
Wont let me reply to your PM Wurzel, i get the following message when i click post reply...

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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-23, 22:04
lcfcDan wrote:Can somebody help by explaining the 'levels' part of the tournament schedule? its not something ive seen before and google isn't giving me any results, im sure i'll have alot more questions too as i look into it more!

Thank you for your help so far guys Smile
It's the length of time between the blind levels increasing. So you probably start with the SB at 25 and the BB at 50, then after 20, 25, or 30 minutes that will increase to 50/100, then 75/150 or 100/200, and so on for the remainder of the tournament. Some casinos play 4 x 30 minute levels to take them up to the first break, then maybe drop them to 20 minutes. Most players prefer a slow structure (longer levels) but plenty like turbos with maybe 15 minute levels. If you've played online you'll already have the hang of it.
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-24, 07:26
Yeah i understand now, i just hadn't heard it called levels before. i think im heading to Nottingham at some point next week its looking like so i will post here in-case anybody fancies joining.
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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-24, 11:33
lcfcDan wrote:Wont let me reply to your PM Wurzel, i get the following message when i click post reply...

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Dont tell anyone but it's only 5 :-)
This is just to deter spammers who sign up just to send pms to members.

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Re: Beginners Poker in the midlands?

on 2016-06-24, 12:48
Thank you, i thought it would be 10 but that is good.
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